Because I am so willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Ms. Galloway, we will operate under the belief that she had nothing to do with recruiting Sue Perez. I admit, her past adversarial relationship with Senator Correa and her closeness to Sue Perez do raise some questions, but I believe her, for now. I understand she may have Republican friends, all of us Democrats do. Heck I even have some family(on the Latino side for God’s sake) who listen to Rush Limbaugh and all the right wing nuts. That still will be no excuse for Lorri Galloway to once again support an anti-gay, anti-labor candidate for State Senate. Therefore I would like to follow up on Dan’s post and ask when Lorri will be announcing her unwavering support for the re-election of our Democratic State Senator Lou Correa.
I know she has been touting herself as the best Democrat to ever walk the face of the Earth, and I applaud her stands on progressive issues, which is why I know she will support the candidate who is a friend to labor and other progressive causes. True, Correa may not exactly be Paul Wellstone, but he has been there with us when push comes to shove and that’s what counts. Sue Perez works for TBN, and is a conservative religious fundamentalist.
At a recent Young Democrats meeting, Lorri Galloway so passionately addressed her anger at the recent BOS decision to pull funding for Planned Parenthood. I am glad she is as angry as we all were, but that anger will be for nothing if she supports a candidate who would do the exact same thing. I have heard Lorri Galloway speak passionately for marriage equality, thumbs up in my book. But it will be all empty words if she endorses a proponent for Prop 8 over our State Senator who openly opposed it.
So Ms. Galloway, when will you be endorsing Senator Correa for his re-election? Inquiring minds would like to know.
So Claudio; will Correa endorse Galloway?
Once again, apples and oranges!
Lorri G. is in a race with at least 2 other announced Democrats. Lou could support any one of them without losing Democratic cred.
But there is no known DEMOCRATIC opposition to Sen. Correa in the upcoming election. Only Lorri’s right wing TBN pal. Suspicious!
So will Lorri be a team player this time around (as opposed to last time) or will she stay silent and show us all what she’s really made of?
The clock is ticking, Dan!
What’s the rush; the election is a YEAR away. Lorri is a team player. But Lou is only 85 percent a team player, so perhaps you need to move Lou towards 100 percent compliance as a Democrat before we start wondering if Lorri is going to endorse him or not.
If Lorri is a team player, as you purport, which team is she on, exactly?
The history of her actions shows it’s not the Democratic team.
Despite the info you’re being fed, Dan, Lou has proven to be a solid Democrat during his time in the Assembly, State Senate, and the County Board of Supervisors.
What facts do you have to prove the 85% number you threw out?
http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=9732 Here you go Pub….
Project Vote Smart from 1996 is the best you can come up with?
Really, Dan?
Talk to anybody seriously involved in campaigns about their opinion of PVS. Only amateurs fill it out. And only buffoons use it as a source.
Claudio, don’t hold your breath. Galloway thinks she is a kingmaker for some reason, ridiculous considering her lack of respect for Correa in the past. Galloway is about Galloway. She cares only for her own agenda and not those of the district wishes to represent. Oh yeah, and maybe she should run for the district she actually lives in first, but that’s too hard to do considering her pea brain.
One thing is clear, Lou Correa really wants Galloway’s support. Not matter what the outcome, this is a good thing for the Galloway Supe.Campaign
Dan C.,
Why would Lou support Lorri? She is a carpetbagger.
Daniel- You actually think Correa (a State Senator, former assemblyman and supervisor) gives a crap about Lorri’s endorsement? You vastly overestimate Lorri’s political clout.
You follow campaign messages really well, but independent thinking doesn’t seem to be your strong suit.
Dan- You realize that Lou can endorse any of the 3 Dems in the Supes race and still be a team player right? And that Lorri has only two options, A) Support Lou or B) Stay out.
You are a democratic donor, whose generosity is sought after regularly from campaigns, are you going to continue to support Lorri if she endorses Sue Perez?
That’s all I really want to know, and I hope you answer publicly and put it out there for Lorri and her monkey minions to read and know. The answer should be a resounding “NO!” especially from someone who purports to be to the left of Ted Kennedy.
Steve,
That is an easy question, yes, yes I do.
Once Again, you need to expand your logic to test its validity. Does a president care about a Governor’s endorsement. What does clout have to do with it? Isn’t it more about getting voters? Has Lorri done that?
The bigger issue is do endorsements matter… hardly
Also, please notice the picture Claudio chose this time…
Daniel,
Do you really think we are trying to suck up to Lorri by using a nice looking picture of her. Since this was not a bash Lorri post, I thought I would use a nicer looking portrait, you are reading way to much into things.
I am not trying to suck up to Lorri, I am simply trying to send a message and so far she nor her camp have answered directly. So can we count on her to endorse Lou Correa over Sue Perez? Or will we here a story that Revolution #9 actually has a subliminal message that played backwards says “Lou hates children.”
You need to drill down into the data better Pub….there are other resources, but my laptop ran out of juice.
Art — Lorri and her husband have a nice two story home in the district. You’re wrong again. And you seem to forget Lorri spends the bulk of every waking hour working in the district. So she certainly knows the issues and the interests of those who live in the district.
Steve —
I am supporting Lorri in the race until she wins, loses or withdraws. I still believe she is the best candidate for the job and certainly has the experience of being effective while being in the minority on the Anaheim City Council and I also think she is the best suited to represent the people of the 4th district. I seldom write checks to people I can’t personally vote for. I have written a check to Lorri.
As mentioned before, Sen. Correa probably wouldn’t care of an endorsement, especially from a contested local race and THIS EARLY!
Endorsements are a crock imo, so having Lorri stay out of it for now is everyones best bet.
It’s as silly as asking will Daly or Espinoza endorse Correa? How about we wait and see, I’m thinking that everyone is starting to wonder if ANY dem is a real dem. Shame on us??
Kinda of saddened that you admitted that you put your personal rapport with these people, and the influence you garner by being a donor, above the good of the party and the people residing in this District. Lets me and others know where your coming from Dan.
Steve == Lorri spends her life in the district working with and helping the residents there. What’s good for the party is supporting string candidates who can not only win but be effective when they are in office. I;m sorry we don’t see eye to eye on this, but the reality is I believe I am supporting the candidate who will do the best job. If Daly wins the primary, I’ll support him. I honestly don’t understand why there is this rush to measure Lorri’s candidacy based on whether or not she will support Correa; why not compare her positions against Daly’s and Espinoza’s and measure it that way?
Perhaps you don’t understand because
A) You don’t live here, you won’t have to deal with her carpetbagging representation.
B) Your not gay. You don’t have to deal with the ramifications that the phycho bigots she endorses will have on your gay civil rights.
It seems so ridiculous that you go through this effort to defend a carpetbagging politician that doesn’t even/ won’t be representing you! Your attempts to effect the 4th’s representation are akin to Lorri carpetbagging from the Hills! How ironic. In the end the will both come the same end. Defeat.
Hey Steve — if Lorri ever wants to come carpetbag in my district, I’d be thrilled. You’re right Steve, I’m not gay, but I will put my record of supporting equal rights for everyone up against anyone’s. There is still plenty of discrimination to go around for women, minorities and gays and lesbians. Lorri hasn’t endorsed anyone this cycle, so I’m not entirely sure what it is your are complaining about. As far as defending carpetbaggers, I have no problems with them provided they understand the district they plan to represent. I’m from New York and always felt RFK and HRC were great senators. Douglas Hoffman, a carpetbagger in NY23 did not understand the reliance that district has on the federal government to sustain the area’s economy which made him a bad candidate. Might I suggest Steve, your personal dislike for Lorri aside, look at her position on issues and her record versus the other Democrats in the race and let me know what you find so objectionable.
Frankly, I wouldn’t put your record of support for gay rights against anyone’s. You gave money to people that endorse anti-gay candidates. You funded the anti-gay movement via Lorri. You gave Lorri money. Lorri helps anti-gays. That’s exactly what has happened. Where’s the confusion?
I know you don’t oppose gay rights personally, but your supporting someone who has proven to support the anti-gay movement. It tarnishes your record bud.
We’ve been through your inability to distinguish politics of a different region and stature. Lorri has NOWHERE near the clout or stature of HRC and RFK, seems very foolish even to make that comparison.
You are no authority on any dislikes I might or might not have. I have no respect for a wealthy carpetbagger who never saw fit to live a working ghetto until it was politically convenient for her to do so. She also was just elected by the people of Anaheim for a job that she now deems below her. She’s displayed no regard for districting rules, and no commitment for the office she was elected too. Why do you like her again? Because she gave you a personal phone call and asked for your support? Not all of us are so easily swayed.
For the love of god Steve! Understand that ideology without practical politics is DOA. This is an absolute in our political system, arguing over it makes your comments silly outside an academic context.
And what you are saying about Lorri is just plain wrong and really looks mean spirited.
Unlike RFK and JFK, who were of the upper upper class, Lorri is in no way super rich… I mean that is just ridiculous.
Lorri, will have been a city council member for 6 years if she moves up to the supervisor seat. Another local office that deals with similar issues for the same people on a wider scale.
Steve your comments are making you look bitter, this always helps the opposing party.
Lastly, do not invoke the “gay movement” it is naive…
One more thing,
Espousing ideological purity is, simply, not a good thing….
Daniel- I think it’s clear to outside readers that you refuted absolutely none of my points. In fact you and Dan both have substituted substance for rhetoric and campaign talking points consistently(Bacon didn’t even do that much…) on these threads. No one here has attacked Lorri personally at all, yet you call me mean and bitter?
I’m not the gay working against his self interests here, perhaps self evaluation should be implemented on your part? I notice you didn’t answer the question I left you previously. You know, the one about whether you would continue helping your old boss if she endorsed another anti-gay, endorsed yet another person that would strip both you and me of our rights in a second.
There are major differences between us Daniel, not just the fact that I’m “idealistic”. For example I’m willing to bet that you never so much as brought up the subject of the anti-gay endorsement in a conversation with Lorri. I bet you never even asked for an explanation of why she endorsed this hateful women. I would.
I never expected to change your mind, or Dan’s for that matter, but I wasn’t about to let both of you rationalize out unethical actions. Not when neither of you even live here. The AUDACITY!
Also you rant about the comparisons of Lorri with RFK and JFK. 1st The comparison was with NY politicians HRC and RFK not JFK. 2nd I didn’t even make that comparison, Dan did. Skipped too many reading comprehension classes did we?
Steve, no one is talking about substantive issues…
So I will try.
That fact she endorsed a candidate you deem as “anti-gay,” a term you do not define, because she found her better than the candidate you deem “pro-gay,” again I have no idea what this means, is a small issue next to the paramount issues we face as a nation and as a county.
I am an idealist, and as such, I recognize that the structural violence our economy brings on service sector families is an incredibly bigger issue than gay rights. In its scope alone.
Lorri Galloway has dedicated her life to the bigger problems through her work at the Eli Home and through her push for affordable housing among other things…
These are the issues which need to be addressed on the board of supervisors , gay rights is superfluous within this context. If that is your only issue, that is fine but your focus on Lorri is counter-productive and misplaced; go talk your neighbors.
And going after Lorri on a class basis, is hateful and ridiculous. No “idealist” would ever do that, post-Marx.
If Lorri is such a well-qualified candidate, Daniel, why does she choose NOT to run in the district where she and her husband have long lived, where she raised her kids, etc. Her association with wingnuts tells me that she might do surprisingly well in that area.
Instead, she finds a district that is more winnable for a Democrat, and comes here to be the great savior of the North OC flatlanders. As a longtime resident and voter, it’s simply OFFENSIVE to me.
The ambition to leave her current position to try to be elected by a different community tells me exactly what kind or person she is. I’d support either of the two announced Democrats who have lived in the district for many years.
So as far as I’m concerned, Galloway doesn’t even qualify to get her stylishly heeled foot in the door where the discussion of these “substantive issues” is being held.
I disagree, carpetbagging, and lack of commitment (which points to flaws in ones integrity)are still major factors that are considered by voters.
Lorri spends virtually every waking hour in the 4th district; these are people she knows well and who know her well.
BTW, Lorri does live in the 4th now and has for a while.
Steve – you disappoint me; Lorri endorsed a candidate who lost. Your supposition about how my contribution somehow went to politicans who support anti-gay policies is laughable. I wrote a check to Obama too; and he’s stated marriage is defined as between a man and a woman.
You are still unable to articulate that you know any of Lorri’s positions on issues compared with Daly. Until you can, all you have is a personal dislike of her. And that’s fine.
“Lorri does live in the 4th now and has for a while”
Since when? A few weeks before the filing period for the Supervisor’s race? Has she sold her house in Anaheim Hills? I’d be a lot more impressed with her dedication to our district if I learned that she no longer had a bolthole to flee back to in the event of a loss.
As far as living in the 4th District and getting to know her well, I wish that my relationship with Lorri was that fulfilling. But she’s made it abundantly clear that if you don’t fit into one of two groups — unionized workers or low-income housing clients — she hasn’t got the time of day for you. I don’t think that her narrow focus as a councilmember has served Anaheim well, and I don’t think that her act will play any better should she take it up to the county level.
Kevin – I’d say it’s obvious you don’t know Lorri at all
Dan- It’s obvious that you have no respect for opinions other than yours. Your rebuttals are as petulant as Daniel Lamb’s ( who is a former employee of Lorri!)
I asked you not to pretend to be an authority of my likes and dislikes and you insist on it! Is it because you are angry that my level of discourse has remained so high? While you and Daniel call others names and insinuate that I have a dislike for Lorri Galloway? This isn’t about like or dislike, its about rules and rule breakers!
Thanks for the condescension, Dan.
As a resident of Anaheim and the Fourth District, I paid a lot of attention to the candidates and issues in last year’s City Council race. I’ve attended City Council meetings and watched online (although as an occasional spectator, not a hardcore junkie). I’ve watched how Lorri put herself forward during her two big public issues — the SunCal debacle and the Disneyland labor dispute. I’ve visited her website and seen her YouTube videos. What more do I have to do before I “know” Lorri? Perhaps the problem is Lorri’s, as apparently the only way to “know” her is to touch the hem of her garment and become a true acolyte.
I see someone who’s undeniably got a lot of heart, but who isn’t a terribly effective politician. So far, she’s struck out on the issues that she went to the wall for — the SunCal mess went down in flames, and her grandstanding doesn’t seem to have brought Disney and UNITE HERE any closer to a settlement.
(Also, *HAS* she sold her house in Anaheim Hills?)
Dan doesn’t mean to be condescending Kevin. It’s just… that as a Democratic donor he feels empowered to make as strong an argument as possible for the people he donates too. Little things, like lack of ETHICAL behavior, or the fact that he doesn’t even LIVE in the district in question, or even simple LOGIC don’t have any effect on his mentality.
Carpetbagging originated as a term used by racist southerners agaisnt northerners who were running for office in the south advocating civil rights and economic development…
No one here has attempted to explain why carpetbagging is bad, unethical or wrong. Making their arguments void of substance.
Moreover, we can all imagine a circumstance when carpetbagging would clearly be a moral good!
Carpetbagging, since the post-civil war era, has been a campaign tool used to attack a candidate, then as now it is of questionable efficacy…
Daniel- Looks like those dastardly bloggers at Orange Juice got a hold of some youtube endorsement videos for your girl (maybe they were your idea? It would be hilarious if it was!). Looks like Lorri just lost credibility with her claims of not recruiting Sue. You know how it is, perception is reality! Better run off and try to put out the fire!
Steve,
So off point… and rather silly. Extending you logic, and that of the brilliant folks at O.J. …
If A endorses B then, by this act alone, B has simultaneously endorsed A’s spouse in all future races.
That is not logic, that is a absurd as it takes for granted so many steps, steps that may defy principles of time and psychics…
I really do not understand where all this bad faith is coming from… Is this conversation the reason you are interested in politics?
I am not working for Lorri, she is only a friend and mentor. I am taking time away from my studies because to blog here because I care about the democrat community in OC.
I’ll remind you Steve and Kevin, as a Democrat, Lorri is in the minority on the Anaheim City Council. And it’s not uncommon for some folks to own two (or more) homes. Steve — the video on OJ is an old one. Lorri personally told me she had nothing to do with recruiting Sue and had no knowledge of her candidacy and I believe her. But pray tell, why does any Democrat have to kiss Lou Correa’s ring? Lou is a fine senator and all that, but with Norby about to leave his BoS seat, we’ll have a real firefight on our hands. I think I’ll have to bring another check to Lorri at the Truman dinner!
Well, how *handy* that Galloway entered the realm of multiple homeownership just in time to meet the residency requirements for the BoS race. (Wink wink!) And now when life amidst the grit and grime of the Fourth District gets to her (for to listen to some Friends of Lorri tell it, she practically deserves a medal for driving to work on East Street every day), she’s got a handy vacation property in Anaheim Hills — Anaheim’s French Riviera!
And if you’re going to attribute Galloway’s political ineffectiveness to her being a minority on Council, how are things going to get any *better* for her on the BoS? I foresee St. Lorri taking a series of martyred only-I-can-care-so-much stands on various issues, and repeatedly getting quashed by the other four supes, whereas a more savvy and experienced pol like Daly might actually have a shot at building consensus and getting things done.
Steve,
While I disagree with Dan about the signiificance of Galloway’s refusal to support Senator Correa in the most competitive race in the senate, and also disagree with him about the charges of carpetbagging that Galloway faces, I hope you cut him a little slack. Dan’s a good guy who has done some good things in irvine. In fact, I would think he’d have his hands full there without getting involved in arguments with local Democrats in an area that is quite different from the off-world City of Irvine.
But he’s got every right to opine, every right to have good money chase bad. He has supported some good people in areas outside of irvine and deserves mucho props for carrying the donkey banner in ideological skirmishes with the Reps. on this blog. That doesn’t mean give him a pass or point out things like he is an outsider, but give him a little respect please.