WOW!
With about half of the votes counted in South Carolina, Obama has 54%, Clinton 27%, and Edwards 19%.
That’s HUGE!!!
And he won every racial, class, and age group except the over 60. He won the “poorer” and the “richer” . Pretty good stuff, I guess. And Republicans are nervous. Hillary will motivate and unify the Republican base. Just the opposite with Obama. And Obama will motivate a lot of the “independents” to abandon the Republicans… That’s a formidable candidtate.
The Orange County Register’s All Things Presidential Blog had Frank Barbaro saying that people are starting to suggest that the results of the South Carolina Race were a Waterloo for John Edwards.
I’m not so sure about that. The top two candidates have spent a fortune getting to this point. I’m not sure that there is much in the way of donors that are not tapped out to either campaign. The key for everyone in the Super Tuesday Primaries will be grass roots financial support. I find it interesting that with 0% of the precincts reporting Obama was projected as the winner with 70% of the vote by the major media outlets. They showed Clinton at 21% and Edwards at 9%.
Now with 86% reporting we have Obama at 54% Clinton at 27%, and Edwards at 19%. What I think these numbers show that this is a three person race. With more than 60% of the turnout women, it looks to me like Clinton clearly does not have a lock on the “woman’s vote.†With none of the candidates having a clear majority of delegates, I think we’re looking at a brokered Democratic Convention.
The fact that the major media has failed to mention Edwards on a consistent basis (The Register to some level being an exception to that rule) people have been left with the impression that there are only two viable candidates. That simply is not true. The race for the Democratic nomination is a 50 state process. If no candidate emerges from that process as the clear choice with a clear majority of delegates under their control, the delegates may be forced to select a consensus nominee who may not be either of the front-runners. John Edwards is still in this race and absent a true front-runner, can still become the nominee. At a minimum he may be the deciding factor in who that nominee will be.
I believe that Edwards will stay in the race through at least Super Tuesday and most likely through to the convention. I forget the rules exactly, but I believe that pledged delegates are released after the first round of voting or before at the direction of the candidate. After that point, all bets are off and anything can happen.
CNN shows Obama winning every county in South Carolina but two (one rural western county went for Edwards, a larger coastal county for Clinton).
South Carolina delegates won – Obama 8, Clinton 4, Edwards 2.
Above I implied Obama won among whites, that’s apparently not true. Sorry. He got something like a quarter of that vote, the LA TIMES says.
Chris Prevatt is correct!.
South Carolina is an anomally. 8 delegates for obummer. big deal!
Edwards should have been in the VP slot if mental weakling JK hadn’t failed to contest Ohio.
John Edwards in 2008. obummer needs 8 more years to season, and prepare to lead the Dems for at least the next 16 years.
Chris, rlg, Heather, please put down the Edward’s kool aid.
3 rd place is last place.
Stick a fork in Edwards, he is done. Get on the Obama train if you want change or you Edwards people will give California to Hillary.
obummer. all lower case. Twice. That’s so cute.
Any comment that begins with “Chris Prevatt is correct” is immediately suspect in my mind.
I like that “Step Away” put “rlg” in lower case as well.
As much as Edwards supporters try to spin this one in favor of their guy, it’s looking tougher and tougher for him.
I might change my opinion after I see or hear an Edward advertisement or receive a piece of mail from him. So far I’ve only seen Hillary and Barack commercials. And have 2 mailers from each.
Curmudgeon:
Cheap shots from a person afraid to post under his or her own name?
I have been wrong plenty of times in my life, as I am sure you probably have been as well. But I have also been right a few times too.
What is the old adage about the blind squirrel encountering a nut once in a while? Or a stopped clock being right twice a day?
“Cheap shots” – is that supposed to mean something from the same guy who wrote about “Hillary’s sniffling tour?” You’re the master of cheap shots, Chris.
In any case, fear has nothing to do with my preference for a pseudonym. I’ll comment (less often) under my own name when you require a real name from NorthCountyStorm, BladeRunner, RLG, Jose S, etc., etc…
WOW!
With about half of the votes counted in South Carolina, Obama has 54%, Clinton 27%, and Edwards 19%.
That’s HUGE!!!
And he won every racial, class, and age group except the over 60. He won the “poorer” and the “richer” . Pretty good stuff, I guess. And Republicans are nervous. Hillary will motivate and unify the Republican base. Just the opposite with Obama. And Obama will motivate a lot of the “independents” to abandon the Republicans… That’s a formidable candidtate.
The Orange County Register’s All Things Presidential Blog had Frank Barbaro saying that people are starting to suggest that the results of the South Carolina Race were a Waterloo for John Edwards.
I’m not so sure about that. The top two candidates have spent a fortune getting to this point. I’m not sure that there is much in the way of donors that are not tapped out to either campaign. The key for everyone in the Super Tuesday Primaries will be grass roots financial support. I find it interesting that with 0% of the precincts reporting Obama was projected as the winner with 70% of the vote by the major media outlets. They showed Clinton at 21% and Edwards at 9%.
Now with 86% reporting we have Obama at 54% Clinton at 27%, and Edwards at 19%. What I think these numbers show that this is a three person race. With more than 60% of the turnout women, it looks to me like Clinton clearly does not have a lock on the “woman’s vote.†With none of the candidates having a clear majority of delegates, I think we’re looking at a brokered Democratic Convention.
The fact that the major media has failed to mention Edwards on a consistent basis (The Register to some level being an exception to that rule) people have been left with the impression that there are only two viable candidates. That simply is not true. The race for the Democratic nomination is a 50 state process. If no candidate emerges from that process as the clear choice with a clear majority of delegates under their control, the delegates may be forced to select a consensus nominee who may not be either of the front-runners. John Edwards is still in this race and absent a true front-runner, can still become the nominee. At a minimum he may be the deciding factor in who that nominee will be.
I believe that Edwards will stay in the race through at least Super Tuesday and most likely through to the convention. I forget the rules exactly, but I believe that pledged delegates are released after the first round of voting or before at the direction of the candidate. After that point, all bets are off and anything can happen.
CNN shows Obama winning every county in South Carolina but two (one rural western county went for Edwards, a larger coastal county for Clinton).
South Carolina delegates won – Obama 8, Clinton 4, Edwards 2.
Above I implied Obama won among whites, that’s apparently not true. Sorry. He got something like a quarter of that vote, the LA TIMES says.
Chris Prevatt is correct!.
South Carolina is an anomally. 8 delegates for obummer. big deal!
Edwards should have been in the VP slot if mental weakling JK hadn’t failed to contest Ohio.
John Edwards in 2008. obummer needs 8 more years to season, and prepare to lead the Dems for at least the next 16 years.
Chris, rlg, Heather, please put down the Edward’s kool aid.
3 rd place is last place.
Stick a fork in Edwards, he is done. Get on the Obama train if you want change or you Edwards people will give California to Hillary.
obummer. all lower case. Twice. That’s so cute.
Any comment that begins with “Chris Prevatt is correct” is immediately suspect in my mind.
I like that “Step Away” put “rlg” in lower case as well.
As much as Edwards supporters try to spin this one in favor of their guy, it’s looking tougher and tougher for him.
I might change my opinion after I see or hear an Edward advertisement or receive a piece of mail from him. So far I’ve only seen Hillary and Barack commercials. And have 2 mailers from each.
Curmudgeon:
Cheap shots from a person afraid to post under his or her own name?
I have been wrong plenty of times in my life, as I am sure you probably have been as well. But I have also been right a few times too.
What is the old adage about the blind squirrel encountering a nut once in a while? Or a stopped clock being right twice a day?
“Cheap shots” – is that supposed to mean something from the same guy who wrote about “Hillary’s sniffling tour?” You’re the master of cheap shots, Chris.
In any case, fear has nothing to do with my preference for a pseudonym. I’ll comment (less often) under my own name when you require a real name from NorthCountyStorm, BladeRunner, RLG, Jose S, etc., etc…
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8134.html