The Way Back Machine: Carona Supporters from 1998 and 2006

It’s amazing what you can find on the Internet with some precise search terms.

While Mike Carona finds himself under federal indictment, he also can presume to count on the backing of his many supporters of his 1998 race for Sheriff and his 2006 re-election bid.

I will be interested to hear what these people have to say about the indictment and what they believe the eventual outcome will be.  See the lists of supporters after the jump.

 

MIKE CARONA FOR SHERIFF-1998

 Endorsement List 

I have a vision for the Sheriff’s Department which includes accountability to the public, fiscal responsibility, and a tough stance on crime. My candidacy for this non-partisan position has already received widespread, bipartisan support. I have been endorsed by the following elected officials, community leaders and concerned citizens: 

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher
· Congressman Ed Royce
· Senate Minority Leader Rob Hurtt
· Senator Ross Johnson
· Senator John Lewis
· Assemblyman Dick Ackerman
· Assemblyman Scott Baugh
· Assemblywoman Marilyn Brewer
· Assemblyman Bill Campbell
· Assemblyman Jim Morrissey
· Assemblyman Bill Morrow
· Assemblyman Curt Pringle
· Supervisor Jim Silva, O.C. Board of Supervisors
· Supervisor William Steiner, O.C. Board of Supervisors
· County Clerk Gary Granville
· Mayor Pro Tem Lou Lopez, Anaheim
· Council Member Tom Tait, Anaheim
· Council Member Bob Zemel, Anaheim
· Mayor Pro Tem Gary Monahan, Costa Mesa
· Mayor Thomas Carroll, Cypress
· Mayor Don Bankhead, Fullerton
· Council Member Jan Flory, Fullerton
· Council Member F. Richard Jones, Fullerton
· Mayor Pro Tem Mark Leyes, Garden Grove
· Council Member Ho Chung, Garden Grove
· Council Member Ken Maddox, Garden Grove
· Council Member Dave Garofalo, Huntington Beach
· Council Member Pam Julien, Huntington Beach
· Mayor Christina Shea, Irvine
· Mayor Pro Tem Dave Christensen, Irvine
· Council Member Barry Hammond, Irvine
· Council Member Greg Smith, Irvine
· Council Member Mike Ward, Irvine
· Council Member Eddie Rose, Laguna Niguel
· Council Member Steve Anderson, La Habra
· Council Member Juan M. Garcia, La Habra
· Council Member John Holmberg, La Habra
· Mayor Helen Wilson, Lake Forest
· Mayor Pro Tem Richard Dixon, Lake Forest
· Council Member Peter Herzog, Lake Forest
· Mayor Pro Tem Charlene Hatakeyama, La Palma
· Council Member Paul F. Walker, La Palma
· Council Member Jeff Kellogg, Long Beach
· Council Member John W. Hedges, Newport Beach
· Council Member Dennis O’Neil, Newport Beach
· Mayor Joanne Coontz, Orange
· Mayor Pro Tem Dan Slater, Orange
· Council Member Michael Alvarez, Orange
· Council Member Mark Murphy, Orange
· City Treasurer Helen Walker, Orange
· Mayor Norman Eckenrode, Placentia
· Mayor Patrick Ahle, San Clemente
· Council Member Harry Dotson, Stanton
· Mayor Pro Tem Jeff Thomas, Tustin
· Council Member Bob Bell, Villa Park
· Council Member Patricia Bortle, Villa Park
· Mayor Frank G. Fry, Jr., Westminster
· Council Member Tony Lam, Westminster
· Mayor Pro Tem Barbara W. Kiley, Yorba Linda
· Council Member John Gullixson, Yorba Linda
· Kathy Smith, Anaheim School Board
· Martin Jacobson, Orange School Board
· Dr. Ken Williams, Orange Co. Board of Education Member
· Eric Woolery, Orange Co. Board of Education Member
· Lisa Woolery, Rancho Santiago Community College Trustee
· Phillip Yarbrough, Rancho Santiago Board of Trustees
· John Williams, Saddleback Valley Community College Trustee
· Russell C. Paris, Board of Directors, Midway City Sanitation District
· Marshals Association of California – Orange Co. Chapter
· Marshal Jim White, Glenn County Marshal’s Department
· Marshal Robert Scattini, San Benito Marshal’s Department
· Marshal Keith Bushey, San Bernardino Marshal’s Department
· Donald Abbey
· Jerry Abshier
· George Adams
· Wendy Adams
· Cory Aguirre
· Frederick Aguirre
· Dr. JoEllen Allen
· James Allen
· Orv Amburgey
· Scott Anderson
· J.L. Andrews
· Phillip Anthony
· Gene Artle
· Siarash Azari
· Julian Bailey
· Doug Bay
· Daniel Becerra
· MacDonald Beckett, Jr.
· Margaret Belasco
· John Ben
· Dick Biggins
· Robert Biller
· Yvonne Biller
· Jimmy Blair
· Ann Brascia
· Vinnie Brascia
· Bob Brautigam
· Nina Brice
· Bruce Bridgman
· Vickie Bridgman
· Dianne Brooks
· Harry Bubb
· Mark Bucher
· Barbara Bundy
· S. Vincent Burke
· Tom Burnham
· King Burstein
· Pat Buttress
· Larry Buus
· Victor Calagna
· Tykye Camaras
· John Campbell
· Michael Capaldi
· Rodger Carey
· Rhonda Carmony
· John Carvelli
· Franklin Casco
· Joe Cavallo
· Susan Challen
· Irvin Chapman
· Eric Chase
· Sharon Chase
· Salvatore Ciulla
· James Clancy
· Nancy Clark
· Charlotte Cleary
· Sandy Cline
· Tom Cline
· Diane Coltrane
· James Colvin
· Mai Cong
· Bill Conklen
· Sean Cook
· Brooks Corbin
· Jeff Corless
· Mona Corris
· Steve Corris
· Barry Cottle
· Judy Cramin
· Ronald Cramin
· William Crosby
· John Cruz
· Michael Currier
· Keith Curry
· Thornton D’Arc
· Anthony D’Arrigo
· Amin David
· M.J. DeCarlo
· Jon Deckard
· Lucia DeGarcia
· Max DeLiema
· John Depko
· Marri Derby
· Charles DeVore
· Diane DeVore
· Sherry Dishon
· Andrew Do
· Eric Dobberteen
· Frank Dominguez
· Dick Donald
· Pete Donovan
· William Dougherty
· Brian Doyle
· John Drake
· Don Dressler
· Brian Ducker
· Shelly Ducker
· Cline Duff
· Marilyn Duff
· Diane Dunham
· Steve Dunham
· John Durio
· Dale Dykema
· Jack Earley
· Ladorna Eichenberg
· Robert Eichenberg
· David Ellis
· Jim Enright
· William Estep
· Hal Ezell
· Barry Faber
· Ronald Farnam
· Frank Feldhaus
· Sally Feldhaus
· Marcel Fernandez
· Sandy Fernandez
· James Ferruzzo
· Donald Finefrock
· William Fitzgerald
· John Fleischman
· Lesley Fleischman
· Robert Fluor
· Bill Foley
· K.B. Forbes
· Jane Franklin
· Stephen Fredrick
· Lloyd Freeberg
· Frank Fries
· Norine Fuller
· Howard Garber
· John Garrity
· Dina Gartland
· DonnaTepe Garton
· CorneliusVan Gelder
· James Gibbons
· Don Gilchrist
· Richard Ginnaty
· Tom Goethals
· Brian Goodell
· Dick Gould
· Roger Graham
· Adele Graves
· Jack Gray
· Bryan Green
· Jeffrey Green
· Paul Greenwald
· Aaron Gregg
· Frank Greinke
· Milton Grimes
· Thomas Grisafe
· Susan Groesbeck
· NoreenBryce Gruebl
· Ralph Guerre
· Linda Gwyn
· Kimberly Hahn
· John Hales
· Dean Hall
· Edward Hall
· Richard Hamill
· L. Harmon
· Scott Hart
· Sun N. Jae Hawang
· Gary Hayakawa
· Doy Henley
· Allen Hibbs
· Erica Hill
· Kendall Hite
· Deborah Hofman
· Toni Hohberg
· Dwight Holloway
· Mike Horan
· Robert Huff
· Lisa Hughes
· WilliamSnow Hume
· Joanne Hunt
· ArmandoJ. Islas
· George Jaramillo
· Cathy Jensen
· Buck Johns
· Annie Johnson
· T.J. Johnston
· Greg Jones
· Lawrence Jones
· Susan Kang
· Carl Karcher
· JoanneEl Kareh
· Ronald Kaufman
· Jennifer Keller
· Matt Kenney
· Essan Khavandi
· Wayne King
· Howard Klein
· Harold LaFlamme
· Erick Larsh
· Carol Lavacot
· Maureen Lavin
· Creighton Laz
· Dinh Le
· John Lemster
· Adele Levine
· Jeffrey Light
· Robert Lindenberg
· Jim Lindsey
· Pat Lindsey
· Dan Livingston
· H. Andrew Lloyd
· Donna London
· Vernon Lowry
· Jeff Lund
· Donald Lynch
· John MacIntyre
· Robert Maculsay
· Mike Madigan
· Max Madrid
· Rick Main
· Paul Majors
· Tom Malcolm
· Don Marquis
· Sonia Martin
· Thomas Martin
· Bruce Matthias
· William Mattila
· Michael Maxsenti
· Gil May
· Bobby McDonald
· C. Thomas McDonald
· Donald McFadden
· James McGraw, III
· Holly McGregor
· John McLaren
· Henry Mendoza
· Shawnee Merten
· Edwin Meserve
· Keith Meyer
· Steve Meyer
· Lorene Mies
· David Miller
· Susan Miller
· Ali Mirhosseini
· Zoreh Mizrahi
· Gary Moorhead
· Vishwas More
· Virginia Moreno-Thomas
· Victoria Mortensen
· Maridel Moulton
· Carol Mountain
· Richard Moutier
· Heidi Mueller
· Dannah Murphy
· Peter Muth
· Rick Muth
· Ken Muzzy
· Thomas Myers
· Irving Nathanson
· Bev Nestande
· John Nicholas
· John Nock
· Farzin Noohi
· Hassan Noohi
· Eric Norby
· Ben Novan
· Candy Nunno
· Mannie Ortega
· Douglas Otto
· Csaba Palfi
· Eugene Park
· Joe Pell
· Bruce Peotter
· Scott Peotter
· Theodore Perrine
· Lea Petersen
· Arun Phadnis
· Siegfried Pinchut
· Gary Pohlson
· Michael Pomo
· Al Principe
· Adam Probolsky
· Stan Pulliam
· Ethyle Rachlin
· Ramin Redjai
· Nancy Reed
· Don Regan
· Thomas Reilly
· Michelle Reinglass
· Alan Remington
· Caryn Remington
· Janet Remington
· Jim Richert
· John Robertson
· Dorthy Rochelle
· Patrick Rodgers
· Mario Rodriguez
· Heith Rothman
· Boan Rubalcava
· William Ruzgis
· Patrick Ryan, Jr.
· Emily Sanford
· Stephen Sanford
· Ernie Schneider
· Mike Schroeder
· Bruce Schwartz
· Jim Segner
· Don Segretti
· Mike Shanaham
· John Shaver
· Mike Sheldon
· Steve Sheldon
· Mike Shepard
· Richard Siebert
· Connie Silva
· Jerry Skill
· Laura Smith
· S. Clark Smith
· Dariush Solaimani
· Robert Sparr
· Judy Steffy
· Roger Stumm
· Susan Styler
· James Sunseri
· Kenneth Tait
· Deanne Tate
· Kyle Thomas, III
· Kyle Thomas, Jr.
· Gary Thomson
· Jim Toledano
· Bob Topp
· Joanne Trempala
· Sandy Ueeck
· Beth Ulrich
· Frank Ury
· Nancy Vance
· Rex Vance
· Donald Verleur, II
· Michael Verrengia
· Daniel Verwiel
· Patricia Verwiel
· Robert Viefhaus
· Rick Violett
· Grace Walker
· Jeffrey Wallace
· Joseph Wallace
· Manfred Wallner
· Carole Walters
· Joe Watson
· Laurence Wellikson
· Bruce Whitaker
· David Wilkirson
· Bahia Wilson
· Mark Winters
· Sharon Winters
· Wilma Wittman
· Frank Wright
· George Yardley
· Shelly Zeiler
· Sue Zeiler
· Kathleen Zuckerman

Sheriff Carona is honored to be endorsed by thousands of Sheriff’s Department personnel. Sheriff Carona’s re-election is also endorsed by:

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
Lou Correa, 1st District OC Supervisor
Jim Silva, 2nd District OC Supervisor
Bill Campbell, 3rd District OC Supervisor
Chris Norby, 4th District OC Supervisor
Tom Wilson, 5th District OC Supervisor
Tony Rackauckas, OC District Attorney
David Sundstrom, OC Auditor/Controller
Tom Daly, OC Clerk/Recorder
John Moorlach, OC Treasurer
Bill Habermehl, Superintendent OC Board of Education
Ed Royce, 40th District US Congressman
Gary Miller, 42nd District US Congressman
Dana Rohrabacher, 46th District US Congressman
Bob Margett, 29th District State Senator
Dick Ackerman, 33rd District State Senator
Bill Morrow, 38th District State Senator
Van Tran, 68th District State Assemblyman
Chuck DeVore, 70th District State Assemblyman
Todd Spitzer, 71st District State Assemblyman
Lynn Daucher, 72nd District State Assemblywoman
Lee Baca, Los Angeles County Sheriff
Bernard Keric, former New York City Police Commissioner
Scott Baugh, Chairman OC Republican Party
Tom Fuentes, Chairman Emeritus OC Republican Party
Bruce Herschensohn, Political Commentator
Michael Schroeder, Past Chairman CA Republican Party
Paul Walters, Santa Ana Police Chief
Orange County Republican Party
California Repulican Assembly
State Coalition of Probation Organizations
National Latino Peace Officers Association, Orange County Chapter
Orange County Employee’s Association
Crime Victims United
Greg Ficke, Aliso Viejo Councilmember
Cynthia Pickett-Adams, Aliso Viejo Mayor Pro-Tem
Karl Warkomski, Aliso Viejo Mayor
Carmen Vali-Cave, Aliso Viejo Mayor
Harry Sidhu, Anaheim Councilmember
Tom Tait, Anaheim Former Councilmember
Curt Pringle, Anaheim Mayor
Marty Simonoff, Brea Mayor Pro-Tem
Bill Lentini, Brea Councilmember
Jim Dow, Buena Park Councilmember
Donald McCay, Buena Park Councilmember
Gary Monahan, Costa Mesa Mayor Pro-Tem
Phil Luebben, Cypress Mayor Pro-Tem
Frank McCoy, Cypress Councilmember
Todd Seymour, Cypress Councilmember
Russ Chilton, Dana Point Mayor Pro-Tem
Diane Harkey, Dana Point Councilmember
Wayne Rayfield, Dana Point Councilmember
Guy Carrozzo, Fountain Valley Councilmember
John Collins, Fountain Valley Councilmember
Larry Crandall, Fountain Valley Councilmember
Don Bankhead, Fullerton Mayor Pro-Tem
Dick Jones, Fullerton Councilmember
Shawn Nelson, Fullerton Councilmember
Leland Wilson, Fullerton Mayor
Bill Dalton, Garden Grove Mayor
Keith Bohr, Huntington Beach Councilmember
Gil Coerper, Huntington Beach Mayor Pro-Tem
Don Hansen, Huntington Beach Councilmember
Steven Choi, Irvine Councilmember
Christina Shea, Irvine Councilmember
Todd Beamish, La Habra Councilmember
James Gomez, La Habra Mayor Pro-Tem
Steve Anderson, La Habra Councilmember
Steve Simonian, La Habra Mayor
Elizabeth Pearson-Schneider, Laguna Beach Mayor
Joel Lautenschleger, Laguna Hills Councilmember
Randal Bressette, Laguna Hills Councilmember
Craig Scott, Laguna Hills Mayor
Paul Glaab, Laguna Niguel Councilmember
Mike Whipple, Laguna Niguel Councilmember
Joe Brown, Laguna Niguel Councilmember
Brenda Ross, Laguna Woods Mayor
Kathryn McCullough, Lake Forest Councilmember
Marcia Rudolph, Lake Forest Councilmember
Peter Herzog, Lake Forest Councilmember
Richard Dixon, Lake Forest Mayor
John Paul Ledesma, Mission Viejo Councilmember
Frank Ury, Mission Viejo Mayor Pro-Tem
Trish Kelley, Mission Viejo Councilmember
Lance MacLean, Mission Viejo Mayor
Leslie Daigle, Newport Beach Councilmember
Tod Ridgeway, Newport Beach Councilmember
Mark Murphy, Orange Mayor
Carolyn Cavecche, Orange Mayor Pro-Tem
Norm Eckenrode, Placentia Councilmember
Chris Lowe, Placentia Councilmember
Tony Beall, Rancho Santa Margarita Mayor Pro-Tem
Neil Blais, Rancho Santa Margarita Councilmember
Gary Thompson, Rancho Santa Margarita Councilmember
Jim Thor, Rancho Santa Margarita Mayor
Joe Anderson, San Clemente Councilmember
Sam Allevato, San Juan Capistrano Mayor Pro-Tem
Diane Bathgate, San Juan Capistrano Councilmember
Joe Soto, San Juan Capistrano Councilmember
David Swerdlin, San Juan Capistrano Mayor
Colleen Campbell, San Juan Capistrano Former Councilmember
Wyatt Hart, San Juan Capistrano Councilmember
Ablerta Christy, Santa Ana Councilmember
Miguel Pulido, Santa Ana Mayor
John Larson, Seal Beach Mayor Pro-Tem
Al Ethans, Stanton Councilmember
Brian Donahue, Stanton Mayor
Jerry Amante, Tustin Councilmember
Tracy Worley Hagen, Tustin Mayor Pro-Tem
Lou Bone, Tustin Councilmember
Doug Davert, Tustin Mayor
Bob Bell, Villa Park Councilmember
Richard Freschi, Villa Park Councilmember
Frank Fry, Westminster Councilmember
Kermit Marsh, Westminster Councilmember
Margie Rice, Westminster Mayor
Allen Castellano, Yorba Linda Mayor Pro-Tem
Mike Duvall, Yorba Linda Mayor
Ken Ryan, Yorba Linda Councilmember
Keri Lynn Wilson, Yorba Linda Councilmember

18 Comments

  1. I don’t think this dog will hunt. Although Dana Parsons makes some good points today about Carona having been corrupt from the start, I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect those who supported him in his first election (1998) to have been able to see that.

    Carona may indeed have been bad from Day One, but most people who start out in a job do so with the positive expectations of those around them. Things often go downhill from there.

    I never voted for George W. Bush, but I know decent and thoughtful people who did vote for him in his first election. He mess he has made couldn’t have been predicted even by his worst detractors, IMO. I think the same can be said for those who backed Carona in 1998.

  2. Well, you can excuse ignorance in 1998, but what about all the people who endorsed Carona in 2006, after there had been plenty of time to observe his corrupt cronies, personal peccadilloes, and hubris?

    My personal theory is that a lot of the Republican politicos are perfectly happy with a corrupt sheriff and a prosecutor who seems to always turn a blind eye to political corruption.

    Flowerszz over at OCBlog says that much of Carona’s behavior is what she expects from Republicans here in Orange County

    I read about the indictment and some of it is not anything out of the ordinary, I mean in all reality I do not know any elected out there that has not used their “electedness” to their advantage…

    Bush’s extraordinary politicization of the US Attorney’s office was designed to protect corrupt Republicans from prosecution, but that has unraveled, and the corrupt cronyism of his over-reaching is coming to the harsh glare of reality.

    America’s Sheriff turns out to be just like America’s Mayor and so many other Republicans, a corrupt asshole who surrounds himself with crooks and liars, leads a tawdry personal life, yet still wins the supported of Republican party. a nasty bunch of wide-stanced pigs feeding at the government trough.

  3. you can excuse ignorance in 1998, but what about all the people who endorsed Carona in 2006

    I agree with you completely. There’s no excuse for those who endorsed Carona (or Street, for that matter) in 2006. But the post was about those who endorsed in 1998.

    a lot of the Republican politicos are perfectly happy with a corrupt sheriff and a prosecutor who seems to always turn a blind eye to political corruption.

    I agree and will take it a bit further: they actively seek and desire a sheriff and DA who will turn a blind eye. I’m sure Bill Hunt has his faults, and some of them could be pretty grievous faults. But the reason the OCGOP turned against him was simply that he made it clear he would not turn that blind eye.

    See also Wade, Wally.

  4. Actually, the post had both the 1998 endorsers and the re-election endorsers from 2006, although it could have been made a little more clear, and included links. The name that really caught my eye in the later list was Bernie Kerik, former NY Police Commissioner who pleaded guilty to accepting illegal gifts. Republicans have family values – it’s just that the borrowed them from the Soprano family.

  5. Gila — I thought the headline would have been more slef-explanatory. I enjoyed some of the typos in certain people’s names but compare both lists and there are a lot of 2006ers on the 1998 list. And I left the Dems on the list because it would be unfair not to.

  6. Dan — I’d like to see just the 2006 list, and maybe the 2002 list. I really can’t fault the people who endorsed in 1998, and I think it muddies the water to name them.

    Go ahead and include the Dems! As I say, there’s no excuse for having endorsed Carona in 2006. I don’t care what party one belongs to. (In spite of what a certain person has been saying about me, I absolutely do NOT defend Dems just because they’re Dems. Never have, never will.)

    I do note with some amusement that Aliso Viejo’s Green former Mayor, Karl Warkomski, was on one of the lists!!

  7. I’m starting to use Jon Fleischman as a barometer. Whenever he starts talking about a politico being his good friend and an honorable individual I’m almost assured a jail sentence is pending.

  8. Some would say the fault in endorsing Carona in 1998 was he was a Republican endorsed by the County GOP and was running against a Democrat, Santa Ana Police Chief Paul Walters, the latter endorsed by the AOCDS and the recent Gompers Award winner, Wayne Quint..

  9. NCS, as far as I’m concerned there’s no problem with Dems endorsing Reeps in non-partisan races. In all but the most liberal of areas the sheriff and DA candidates will probably be Reeps regardless. The problem I have is with people of either party endorsing candidates who have obvious problems.

    I sometimes hear “but the other person was so bad!” Well, then don’t endorse anyone.

  10. Understood, and your original point was good about Carona’s ethical shortcomings…who knew?

    But in this case you had a Democrat with an excellent law enforcement background and the GOP machine was backing Republican Carona., whose own law enforcement credentials were weaker in comparison. Carona was their man in their perpetual pursuit of hegemony behind the Orange Curtain.

    So maybe the Dems who endorsed Carona in 98 should have at least taken your advice and not endorsed anyone.

  11. It’s tough for an elected to make a case against endorsing an incumbent who has a strong chance for re-election. Especially in OC where a not endorsing the Sheriff leaves a person open to accusations of not being tough enough on crime.
    I’m fascinated to see which electeds had the cojones to buck the GOP machine, take into account the questions raised about Carona’s integrity (see OC Weekly investigations that go back many years) and NOT ENDORSE the Sheriff for re-election in 2008.
    Loretta Sanchez and Joe Dunn are two of the biggest names that don’t appear on the lists.
    Which other prominent politicos are missing?

  12. It’s a shame more voters don’t understand what an endorsement means. The average voter thinks that Bob Politico endorsed Mary Candidate because he thinks Mary will do a good job.

    Nothing could be further from the truth! Bob has probably endorsed Mary as payback for past favors, future promises, alliances with Mary’s friends, or fear of what will happen if he DOESN’T endorse her.

    It makes me sick.

    It’s really no wonder that some people don’t bother to vote and others won’t even register.

  13. I am on the Endorsement list for Sheriff Mike Carona. I still support him because he is presumed innocent until found guilty in case you have forgotten he has the same judicial rights as the rest of us.

    I am proud to know Mike Carona on a personal level and it is hard for me to believe that such a straight arrow can go so far astray from the path of justice.

    He has been a loyal friend to me and I shall remain a loyal friend to him.

    All of you casting judgement before the facts are heard should place yourselves in his shoes. You would want due process of the judicial system as it is your right as an American in this society.

    To think that Mike Carona should not be given the same access to the judicial system is ridiculous and you should be ashamed.

  14. Who’s casting judgement? I sent a list of al those who endosed him when he first ran and all those who supported him last time around. No one is suggesting he not have the same access to the judicial system. We have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Sunlight is the best disinfectant; we want all the facts to come to light.

    Have you read the indictment? What you read Moxley’s coverage of the Sheriff’s alleged misdeeds? Have you ever asked him if any of it was true? Have you ever asked for an explanation?

    Journalism 101; your mother says she loves you; check it out.

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