Remember that poll in the CD-46 race issued by Lou Correa’s campaign? The one that showed the former State Senator well ahead of all other challengers for Loretta Sanchez’s congressional seat (including the 2014 losing Republican candidate)? And remember how our friends at the OrangeJuice blog offered a long, hard and largely unreadable explanation of why it was “bull” and was really “a desperate fundraising stunt?”
Well, CD-46 candidate and Garden Grove Mayor Bao Nguyen is using his status in this poll to tout himself as the leading Progressive candidate in the race for an end-of-the-year fundraising pitch for his own campaign. Is it brilliant? is it stupid? Is it cheap? Is it thrifty? Depends on who you ask.
Here’s his letter, emailed to supporters last week:
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We sent a note to Mayor Nguyen asking which poll this was, thinking Mayor Nguyen had commissioned his own. Sources confirmed Nguyen used Correa’s poll.
If the poll was a “desperate fundraising stunt” by Correa, doesn’t this logic apply to Nguyen’s campaign as well? To borrow a line from the guys with too much time on their hands at the OJ Blog, “See what I just did there? I just did a poll!” The Mayor hasn’t gotten back to us on which poll demonstrated his progressive leadership status.
Nguyen’s 8% showing in Correa’s poll suggests he, and not former State Senator Joe Dunn (who came in at 5%), is the best hope for progressives in CD-46 and tries to brand Correa has Democratic yet not progressive. To have to admire Nguyen for using another candidate’s, allegedly flawed, poll for a “desperate fundraising stunt.” He saves money by not having to do his own. But in using Correa’s poll, Nguyen lends credibility to it.
The CD-46 race will be fascinating to watch as we get closer to the June primary.
“Long. Hard. Unreadable.” Speak for yourself if you found it hard to read. That’s easy to believe, since you can’t come up with an assertion of Greg’s that you can quarrel with.
I would use that poll too if I were Bao. You use what you can.
Vern, I comment on your blog once a year to typically wish you guys a Merry Christmas. The quarrel Greg has now is with Bao’s decision to use this poll to fundraise after having trashed Correa for doing the same thing. But I’m sure you and Greg are both up to the task of trashing one candidate for using the poll and praising another for using the same poll as you just did. Did you pull a muscle doing those gymnastics?
“You use what you can.”
That’s Vern’s motto for life.
Ummm….
And?
Vern: “The consensus right now is ignore those f**ks. (Matt & Dan.)” — Except Vern used the actual “F” word.
That “consensus” of thought didn’t last long.
I’m thinking you need to hire one of these poor souls Junior; only one of them has a full time regular job. But perhaps not, because instead of doing actual work they’d tell you what you’re doing wrong and how dumb you are and how smart they are…and not actually accomplish anything
Kinda dishonest of you to leave out the next sentence I wrote: “But that consensus seems to swing like a pendulum.”
Or the companion comment in which I tried to explain how hard it is to keep away from Matt’s and Dan’s Kompanion Klepto Blogs:
“You say to yourself, ‘Really, this is all the other side has to offer (besides money and power?) I can easily show how stupid, venal and wrong what they just said is – and be funny while doing it.’ THAT is impossible to resist, for some of us (mostly) guys.
Lecturing about dishonesty? Really Vern? Practiced daily on your blog
Really Vern …. a day and a half – if that – of “ignoring” .. Not much of a commitment there …
You and your OJ buddies read ever word. Zenger has become a stalker. You’re all so smart but live hand to mouth. Losers one and all. Paul Lucas sharpening knives for his enemies scares no one
Neither of us “praised Bao” for using the poll. I said “I’d use it too if I were him, you use what you can.” What kinda ringing praise is that? And I am not Greg. My muscles are fine, just getting warmed up with an end-of-the-year Dan-smackdown boot camp.
Happy New Year!
Of course you’d use what your blog called a flawed poll to fundraise. No criticism there. Nope.
My update to the story is now posted. Same link.
Happy holidays to both the real and the fictive readers of Lib OC. (Word choice intentional.)
Always the guy that needs things spelled out for him like a kindergartener.
The moral of Greg’s piece was not “Lou is an evil man because he created a poll to give the results he wanted and then used it to fundraise.” The moral was “Everyone should take this poll with a great deal of salt.”
the moral of every post of Greg’s is “I’m (Greg) the smartest guy here and everyone should do what I say or think the way I think” which is why he has so little support within the county party.
Nailed it!!!!!!
Greg,
You’re a clown who should get a job and take care of his family but would rather people think you’re smart and matter. Sadly you don’t.
Greg is a clown. No one takes him seriously. Vern is a convicted felon. His girlfriend got nothing for Xmas. Greg’s wife got nothing but was told she should be grateful
…he/she writes in the wake of one of my most successful holiday seasons yet, during which dozens enjoyed my fortune and generosity.
You don’t know jack, anonymous scumbag.
And next week is January. Holiday parties are over. Now what?
Don’t you-all worry, I got plenty of work lined up; and every day I kneel down and thank my maker that it is not in the field of “public relations.”
You’d need to shower every day; not exactly a habit of yours.
Still, even if you took three showers a day (which would admittedly be more than my two), the daily polishing of turds for a living DOES take a huge toll on YOUR odor.
stick to stuff you know; music, alcohol, jail. you know nothing about the PR profession. Polishing turds is what Greg does for CATER. Still waiting for a significant win.
By the way, Dan, your title shows how little you ever understand, how inevitably you miss the point and are drawn instead to the siren song of cliche. Bao didn’t use Lou’s poll to “bolster his progressive credentials,” but to make the case that he had the best chance electorally of the two progressive choices.
You’re welcome.
Voters in the 46th generally don’t know Bao. I stand by my headline.
For Larry Davidson, never leave another comment like the one you wrote on this blog ever again. I do not care for Mr. Diamond, but leave his step-grandchild out of any discussion about OC politics.
I would be glad to see Bao MOVE into the district! Then we could begin to take him seriously.
He’d probably have to resign as mayor of Garden Grove. I’d actually like to see him challenge Dana for Congress or Do for Supe.