Governor Schweitzer to Keynote 14th Truman Dinner

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1. Jeez, didn’t Art report on OJ that Bill Richardson was the speaker? So much for accuracy.

2. Oh man, Montana Governor Schweitzer? Now I’ll have to go. Schweitzer’s speech was a high point of the Democratic Convention this year. I posted it on the OJ back in August, but I don’t want to link to that or big Dan will call me a “blog whore” so here’s the link to YouTube:

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKoKHCxWYM8&eurl=http://orangejuiceblog.com/2008/08/and-your-sunday-video-montana-gov-schweitzers-dnc-barnburner/

3. and Art posted that Bill Richardson would headline the event on that bastion of accuracy we call the Orange Juice.

4. Dan,
   Bill Richardson was supposed to be the keynote pseaker when Art Posted that announcement. That was announced at the DPOC Central Committee a few months ago. But there were several scheduling conflicts and probably some interpersonal BS that we Dems are so famous for that led to the delay of the Truman Dinner till after the Election and possibly to the Plan B of Gov Schweitzer becoming the keynote speaker.

   Personally, I think they should have had a Plan B in place already just in case something like this happened. But it is what it is.

5. Art was wrong. Sometimes he passes along every little thing he hears from his pajaritos. Dan, you are really letting your anti-Art animus turn you into a Johnny One-Note. Not very becoming.

6. In fact maybe that WAS the plan, until Bill got named Commerce Secretary, and now he’s busy preparing for that. As far as I know. Things change over the months.

7. Well, posting every little thing you hear is just plain irresponsible isn’t it Vern. Johnny one-note; hardly.

   The announcement was also made around the time of the DNC convention in Denver so I didn’t put much stock in it because it lacked that Frank Barbaro seal of approval.

8. Paul,
   As usual, you do not know what you are talking about. Bill Richardson was NEVER CONFIRMED as the keynote for the Truman Dinner. It is true that the DPOC was working on getting Richardson to keynote, but it was far from a done deal. There were numerous difficulties in getting the Dinner scheduled, not the least of which was the fact that the Presidential Primary election season ran into June. As far as interpersonal BS goes again you do not know what your talking about, but I digress.

   Vern, I know with some level of confidence that until a speaker is confirmed, a speaker is unconfirmed. It really doesn’t matter what should of, or would of, occurred if… Art ran with an unconfirmed story based upon preliminary discussions. He announced the keynote speaker for the Truman Dinner absent any official statement from the DPOC. Yes, you’re right, Art was wrong. No anti-Art animus involved here. Just reality.

9. Chris,
   Im not sure where this hostile tone is coming from with you.

   The night that it was announced atthe DPOC Central Committee Meeting that Bill Richardson WAS Confirmed, you were in Denver at the DNC Convention.

   Trust me it was said that Bill Richardson was going to be the keynote speaker at the Truman Dinner. Not Maybe. Not Pending confirmation. Not pending further negotiation.

   It was said unequivicoly by Lindsay Hopkins that Richardson was the speaker. It was premised by the announcement that it was with great releief that she can finally let the cat out of the bag about who the Keynote speaker was going to be because the election had taken up so much time that the Truman Dinner was in the planning stages at asuch a late time.

   And about the interpersonal BS; Are you serious?

10. Pedroza Jumps the Gun on Truman Dinner Speaker

11. Dan and Chris,

    Are you two daft? Of course Richardson is too busy to speak at your Truman dinner now! But as Paul has referenced, he was indeed supposed to headline the dinner. Obviously he has bigger fish to fry now.

    I would have gone to this dinner if Richardson was the speaker. Schweitzer is no Richardson, so I will pass on this one.

12. Art,

    As usual, you do not know what you are talking about either.

    As was pointed out in August, Richardson had not been confirmed, nor had a date been confirmed for the Truman Dinner. To suggest that Richardson “is too busy now” implies that he was once not too busy. I am certain that if a date could have been arranged prior to the election that would have happened. Just curious, did you ever get a press release from the DPOC announcing the dinner date or keynote speaker?

    Anyway, sorry you will not be making it to the Dinner. I certainly won’t miss you.

13. Chris,
    Im not sure what it is youre trying to say other than that you talked to Melahat while you were both in Denver.

    My point is that it was announced in no uncertain terms that Bill Richardson Was Confirmed as the Keynote Speaker for the Truman Dinner at the DPOC central committee meeting. I was there. You werent. And neither was Melahat. Rememebr?

    As it was announced it was announced that it was such a relief to finally announce who the speaker would be since the planning of the Truman Dinner had not gotten off the ground as of thatt ime due to the time consumed by the election. But as you know as I do, there was alot of personality conflicts that cuased the delay in the planning of the Truman Dinner. The fact that the Truman Dinner had not been announced was a point of contention in the DPOC this year. Im not clear on all the details about the delay but my best guess would be a combination of time spent on campiagn, persoanlity conflicts, scheduling conflicts and probably a whole host of other things.

    but the fact is that it was announced by Lindsay that Bill Richardson WAS Confirmed as the keynote Speaker for the Truman Dinner out of a list of five or so possible speakers including Governor Schweitzer.

14. Sounds like Pablito = Pajarito

    And Art, watch that video I linked to before you decide that “Schweitzer is no Richardson,” I think you’ll want to do the Truman with me.

15. I agree with Art, Governor Schweitzer may be a fine governor, but he couldn’t inspire blind loyalty in a group of Banthas. Although, now that I think about it, I’d much rather hear him speak then that traitorous sob Bill Richardson.
    Geez, there so much Art and Pual hating going on here, can’t we just let bygones be bygones =)?

16. Actually poor choice in words, by Paul and Art hating, I meant “exchanges”. My bad.

17. Paul — I know full well what was announced at that meeting but I also know that almost immediately, we were given tips that it wasn’t cast in stone. Which is why we waited on it.

18. As it was relayed to me, Richardson’s office said Bill would do the Truman Dinner if they could work out a date. They never could work out a date. If there was a confirmation announcement at a Central Committee meeting it should have been(and may have been, I wasn’t there)disclosed that the acceptance was contingent on a date working for Richardson. His office never gave the DPOC a date that he would attend. Richardson’s failure to show had nothing to do with personality conflicts, at least not on this coast. But truly, who cares if Art had a case of premature publication?

    For those who heard and/or saw Gov. Schweitzer’s speech in Denver, you know this will be an event you do not want to miss. For those of you who missed it in person or on TV, trsut me, he’s the real thing. Who better than a Red State Governor coming to the OC to tell it like it is?

19. I think the point that some are trying to make isthat Mr Prevatt was a bit too zealous in his condemnation of Mr Pedroza for his announcing Bill Richardson as the speaker for the Truman Dinner. Also that in fact Bill Ruchardson was slated to be the speaker. Im curious as to why Mr Prevatt is showing so much hostility in his remarks. but Im not in the loop of all these Democratic circles so I can only speculate. But Mr Prevatt seems to be very pissed off about something.

20. Art says “I would have gone to this dinner if Richardson was the speaker. Schweitzer is no Richardson, so I will pass on this one.”

    I remember when it looked like Hillary would be the Democrat nominee and Art said that he would never vote for Hillary but he would vote for Obama if he was nominated. Then Obama was nominated and Art began to trash him.

    I also remember when I used to take Art seriously.

21. I agree with NorthCountyStorm that Schweitzer is going to be great, better than Richardson even. But Steve, “traitorous SOB?” Are you another one of those Hillary supporters who can’t get over her primary loss? Richardson was perfectly in his rights to think Obama a better candidate and potential president no matter what his history was with the Clintons.

22. I agree with Vern that Richardson was perfectly within his rights to think Obama a better candidate and potential president(and, though unsaid, more likely to win the nomination and general election at the time BR made his move). Carville’s reference to Richardson as “Judas”(or Steve’s “traitorous SOB”) makes about as much sense as those Obama supporters who threatened to retaliate against Congresswoman Maxine Waters unless she switched from Clinton to Obama(she did not until it was over) or those Obama supporters who called Congressman Emmanuel Cleaver(who supported Clinton) an Uncle Tom.”

23. That might be easy to say from your perspectives. But the fact remains that Bill Clinton made Bill Richardson the man that he is. Yeah, I am one of those people who feel Hillary was cheated. Indicators show that had Penn and Florida, two of the biggest states in the Union been counted earlier, it would easily be president elect Hillary. And I do feel she got unfair backlash. I don’t hold any of that against President Elect Obama, but I do hold it against Richardson, and Dodd, and Biden, and every other jumpship democrat that went with the trend instead of their candidate. I feel the party cheated Hillary, for Obama, and I’ll feel it til the day I die.

24. Steve Perez said “had Penn and Florida… been counted earlier, it would easily be president elect Hillary.”
    HOGWASH!!
    If horses had wings, they might fly. Was the primary calendar unknown to the people on the Hillary campaign?
    And can you REALLY think Richardson, Dodd, and Biden “went with the trend instead of their (preferred) candidate.” I don’t think so.
    Nobody was “cheated” out of anything.

25. It’s sad about the turn this thread has taken, but… SPEAKING OF “PENN”…

    It was stoopid Mark Penn (whom Hillary still owes millions of dollars to which I hope she never pays) who didn’t know how half the primaries worked – he thought all he had to do was take the big states, and were amazed to learn that they were no longer “winner-take-all.” And he had no idea how Texas’ wacky prima-caucus worked.

26. Steve to Vern and NCS: That might be easy to say from your perspectives.

    ??

    Don’t you know NorthCountyStorm was a diehard Hillbot? He just has perspective now.

27. Diehard Hillbot ? Bill Richardson was my candidate of choice and got a lot more of my do re mi than did Hillary. Once Bill dropped out I did support Clinton until the Convention. With spirit and conviction. But I never considered myself a diehard Hillbot,, although she got my vote in Denver.

    So I actually have more perspective than even Vern suspected. And Steve, let it go. As painful as it is for those of us who supported Hillary to admit, her campaign’s missteps combined with a pretty flawless effort by team Obama resulted in a close but no cigar for Hillary, the heavy favorite. I know, I was pissed at Richardson too at the time and the handling of the Mighigan-Florida delegations failed to pass the smell test. But you know what? Vern is right–Mark Penn was a disaster, this campaigns version of the Duke of Medina Sidonia. Mark Penn was guilty of political malpractice in a number of ways during this campaign, most of all the virtual abandonment of the caucus states to the Obama legions. Sure there was sexism, betrayals , and monkey business but thats politics. Poor campaign leadership, unimaginative campaign tactics and some pretty deadly torpedoes from Team Obama sunk HMS Clinton .Once Hillary got her second wind she was on her game but it was barely too little, barely too late.

    So Steve, its over. Let the anger go. And you can actually go to the Truman-Gompers dinner and not have to listen to RIchardson(who actually is charming and a good dinner speaker). Don’t underestimate Schweitzer—a great speaker indeed.